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Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK 8" Black

4.1 28
by Barnes & Noble
 
• Brilliant Super AMOLED display with 2048x1536 resolution
• Thin and lightweight with premium construction
• 32GB of built-in storage for thousands of books
• Personalize your experience with Profiles
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Features & Content

  • Ultra Fast and Super Slim
    Ultra Fast and Super Slim
    Amazingly thin & lightweight at only .22” thick and 9.4 ounces(1).
  • Our Most Brilliant Display of All
    Our Most Brilliant Display of All
    The Super AMOLED 2048X1536 (OXGA) display delivers deep contrast, rich colors, and crisp details to maximize your reading and entertainment experience.
  • Enter a World of Books
    Enter a World of Books
    Choose from millions of books, and get instant access to top lists, curated collections, and expert recommendations to help you find your next great read — and sample any book for free.
  • Bestselling Magazines & Newspapers
    Bestselling Magazines & Newspapers
    Buy single issues on a whim, or subscribe and get your favorite magazines and newspapers delivered straight to your NOOK the moment they hit newsstands.
  • Fingerprint Technology
    Fingerprint Technology
    The integrated fingerprint scanner makes unlocking your tablet quick and secure. Additionally, every family member gets their own unique profile and password.
  • All the Storage You'll Ever Need
    All the Storage You'll Ever Need
    Your new tablet already packs in a lot of space with 32GB of built-in storage. If you ever need more, add up to 128GB with an optional microSD™ card(3). And, rest assured, all of your purchases are stored for free in NOOK Cloud™.
  • Something New Every Day
    Something New Every Day
    With years of bookselling experience, NOOK offers you more than just a great tablet. Enjoy personalized recommendations based on what you've loved over time and exclusively curated collections from our experts.
  • Comes with Google Play™
    Comes with Google Play™
    Millions of Android™ apps, games, movies, songs and more are available on Google Play, your entertainment hub right at your fingertips, instantly accessible across devices wherever you go.
  • Now with B&N Readouts
    Now with B&N Readouts
    Enjoy a quick read for every moment with our new digital discovery feature. Featuring a daily selection of free book excerpts, magazine articles, sneak peeks at upcoming releases, and more.

Specs

  • Size & Weights(1)
    Size & Weights(1)
    • Height: 7.8’ (198.6mm)
    • Width: 5.3’ (134.8 mm)
    • Depth: 0.22’ (5.6 mm)
    • Weight: 9.4 oz (265g)
  • 8” Display
    8” Display
    • 2048X1536 (QXGA) Super AMOLED™ display.
  • Battery Life(2)
    Battery Life(2)
    • Up to 14 hours for video usage.
  • Storage(3)
    Storage(3)
    • 32 GB on-board memory.
    • Add up to 128 GB with an optional microSD™ card.
  • Built-in Wi-Fi®
    Built-in Wi-Fi®
    • Wireless connectivity via Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/n/ac).
  • Connectors
    Connectors
    • USB 2.0
    • 3.5mm headset jack
    • microSD™ slot
  • Cameras
    Cameras
    • Front: 2.1 MP
    • Rear: 8 MP
  • GPS
    GPS
    • GPS + GLONASS
  • Support File Types(4)
    Support File Types(4)
    • Audio: M4A, 3GA, AAC, MP3, FLAC, WAV, OGG, OGA, WMA, AMR, MID, MIDI, XMF, MXMF, IMY, RTTTL, RTX, OTA
    • Video: MP4, 3GP, WMV, ASF, AVI, FLV, MKV, WEBM
    • Gallery (pictures): JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP
    • Reader/Other: PDF, ePUB, HWP, HWT, HML, HWPX, DOC, DOCX, TXT, RTF, DOT, DOTX, HWDT, XLSX, XLSB, XLS, XLSM, XLTX, XLTM, XLT, CELL, HCDT, PRN, CSV, TSV, HTML, HTM, PPTX, PPT, POTX, THMX, SHOW, HSDT, HTHEME
  • In the Box
    In the Box
    • Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK®
    • Quick Start Guide
    • Power Adaptor
    • Micro-USB

1 Actual size and weight may vary by configuration and manufacturing process.
2 Based on laboratory testing. Battery power consumption depends on factors such as network configuration, signal strength, operating temperature, features selected, backlight settings, browser use, and other applications usage patterns.
3 Portion of memory occupied by existing content.
4 Adobe, the Flash logo, and Flash are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries.

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Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK 8" Black 4.1 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 28 reviews.
robinhoodC More than 1 year ago
This is an excellent tablet. It's apparent that Samsung built the Galaxy Tab S2 to compete with the iPad. The size of the NOOK model and its aspect ratio are great for reading books and browsing websites. I previously had the NOOK Tablet and the NOOK HD+. The NOOK Tablet had great battery life and standby time, so it was great for reading, but limited as a tablet because it only had access to the NOOK app store. The NOOK HD+ started with the same limitation, but then later, with a software update, opened up to the much larger selection of the Google Play store. A good number of Android apps were compatible, although a good number were not. Most of the apps I had on the NOOK Tablet also worked on the HD+. Although the software update really opened up the HD+ to become a more versatile tablet, the battery life and the responsiveness really suffered. On the Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK fewer NOOK apps are compatible, but on the other hand there are a huge number of Android apps that are compatible. The tablet is very fast and battery life is pretty good, although I wish Samsung had sacrificed a little thinness for better battery life. The Super AMOLED display is beautiful with rich colors and excellent detail in images. Actually the colors tend to be oversaturated by default, but I found that going into the Display settings and setting the Screen mode to Basic, made the colors appear more natural. I appreciate the inclusion of a fingerprint reader, which I use to unlock the tablet. To work properly your finger has to fully cover the home button. I was glad to discover that one of my password manager apps (LastPass) can use it to unlock the app in lieu of a master password. Android is known to be at a disadvantage when comparing the number of tablet-optimized apps available versus Apple's iPad, but I've been able to find a number of tablet-optimized apps. Samsung includes tablet versions of Microsoft Word, Excel, and PowerPoint. Even those phone apps that aren't specifically optimized can sometimes do well on a tablet. Instagram, for example, looks fantastic on the Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK, in fact better than on the iPad, which merely displays the smaller iPhone app surrounded by black bars (even when pixel-doubled). It's also nice to know that the Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK can get Android software updates directly from Samsung. Mine originally came with Android 5.0 but soon received an update to 5.1.1.
doctordaxx2004 More than 1 year ago
What the others before it SHOULD HAVE BEEN. It's a no-risk purchase. Here's why: 1) It's feather-light- even with the protective cover/pen combo I purchased- and allows prolonged one-handed secure operation and fingerprint unlocking without pain or fatigue; 2) It's whisper-quiet; 3) the screen is amenable to low light and direct sunlight; 4) the battery lasts a long time, even with reading large books (1000+ pages) with multimedia links once present only on DVDs; 5) excellent front-facing and rear-facing camera; 6) manbag- or purse-friendly size; (7) three free books and three free magazines; 8) $5 gift card; 9) larger storage than 8GB which allows for easier updating without havig to delete files; and, most importantly, 10) if you're a B&N member your purchase is discounted such that you get the $44.95 protective bookcover and the protection plan for the price of the nondiscounted unit without a membership! This unit's a slamdunk and so is the purchase price! Go get one and get use of the Microsoft Office free for two years! I really like this purchase and I think you will, too!!
RChittenden More than 1 year ago
The Samsung Nook Tab S2 8.0 is an excellent tablet. Web pages, movies, and photographs display beautifully. I held onto my Nook HD+ until a new Nook was available with resolution as good as the HD+ for reading magazines. Also, the HD+ was running an old android version, became very sluggish and shut down frequently for no apparent reason. It was time to upgrade. Owners of the HD and HD+ will not like the “home screen” of current reading as well on the Tab S2. The number of current reads is limited to four and these simply represent the last four items you have touched. Example: Move an older item to the cloud and it will appear as the newest item in the reading queue. You will get used to this but it is not as convenient as the older software version. The Tab S2 is very thin and this helps account for its light weight. However, it is also harder to hold onto than the HD or HD+ because of a slicker back and very slick sides. You will need to use a case with it. (I never used a case with my HD+ for three years and never suffered any damage despite a few falls from the elliptical machine to the concrete floor of the gym). The screen size seems ideal. Although it is slightly smaller than the HD+, in actual use this has been imperceptible to me. In fact, (are you Listening B&N?), the screen size would be perfect for an e-reader. The single and significant drawback to the S2 is when reading books and magazines. The text background color seems unstable, kind of dancing, and its color will change depending on the angle at which you are holding the tablet. I finally found a grey background with white text works for me but it is not as comfortable as the HD tablets. This is probably because of the OLED (organic light emitting diode) technology use for the screen as opposed to LCD technology. OLED (or AMOLED) accounts for the superior color rendition and deep blacks that can be achieved. I just do not think it gives as comfortable a reading experience. Bottom line: This is a beautiful tablet. It will take some adjustment if you are used to the HD line of Nook tablets. I am glad I bought it but I am keeping my HD+ stripped down to its reading applications, minus all the apps.
PeteC More than 1 year ago
This was perfect tablet for Barnes and Noble to go with! The 8" Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 is especially well-suited for use as an e-book reader. Very light-weight, big enough screen with super brightness and resolution while still being small enough to comfortably hold for extended periods of time, and travels well too. The 4:3 screen ration makes this equally at ease with books, magazines, and web browsing (No slouch at games/videos/movies either!). As a tablet, it is fast and smooth in operation. The 32gb ram give ample storage (yes, you can add a memory card, but having plenty of main device storage is important). I take mine with me everywhere, so I was happy to find that despite being so light, it is built solidly all the same. I have had a number of e-readers and tablets, and find this simply a joy to use. You can spend less for a good e-reader/tablet, and Barnes and Noble offer some fine choices, but without a doubt the Galaxy S2 Nook is a superior e-reader/tablet. I don't think anyone purchasing this will regret making the choice.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
F I V E STARS! Tablet reviews? I have had iPad Mini 4's iPad Air 2's 1 Nvidia Shield K1 Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 (8"+9.7") The Barnes & Noble Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK = PERFECT!! This NOOK version is THE BEST version of the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2's! Samsung assembles this tablet version different because of the change in software (Nook applications ). This version seems to go through a second quality control check. (Because I have a lot of bad S2's from Fry's! AND Bestbuy! This is important to me because the Fry's Electronics versions were all exchanged by flawed S2's. Quickly, this screen is AMOLED turning off pixels for true blacks. Remember when you search for a new Television, and the salesman said about true blacks give the best color? SONY. The screen is constructed by Diamond tile pixels (displaymate (.)com) This tablet screen (Galaxy Tab S) won awards for the closest RGB colors in testing,at Displaymate. This S2 is the same screen as 'S', just different resolution 4:3 vs 16:10. (Verified by Email @ Displaymate (.)com) 2 green LED pixels per bundle in a diamond pattern (8" S2).This idea was created in testing from human eye tests. What don't we see if we remove a color from a photo. Taking away green color is the most noticeable to the human eye. During some video playback some color is removed. VHS movies (if I remember correctly) practiced this process to save room for more information in the tape. Longer movie. Photos of a leaf is mind blowing! Also, 2k video recording capability. Almost forgot, the screen has color modes. Over saturated Samsung look can be changed to Basic (normal), AMOLED Photo, AMOLED Cinima, AMOLED Adaptive, and Reading mode. At night, 8% brightness is suficient! Lol, it is amazing. Watch The Tonight Show on YouTube or Hulu on this is amazing! The shows with dark wood furnature richness is fantastic with this screen! AMOLED is LED=less power. The battery is a small capacity but 9+hrs with some adjustments watching and surfing. READING is a different story! Longer battery life. There is also a super power saver mode turning the screen black/white and limited to so much. (Emergencies only). CPU is 8 core. OMG! Multi windows multi windows! APPLE eat that! Power saving mode, adjusted by the UI, uses less cores for longer battery. 3GB of RAM! iPad Mini 4 has used 1.2GB RAM for OS, leaving 800mb to spare, out of 2GB causing glitches. The S2 has 1.5-1.7GB to spare. More RAM, smoother, more multitasking. Samsung keyboard has: 'Ctrl' key, Ctrl+C (copy), Ctrl+V (paste) features are rare! '' keys! Moving cursor between letters is a must! This goes on sale- $299 -10% B&N membership discount. $269.. It is the best deal your going to get for such a superior product. Quality, and craftsmanship (not only in build, but in software, and style), there is nothing on the market with this much class and feel and build out at this price point. Even a Micro SD card slot! I Read -negative reviews about this tablet, but turns out its about the 'discount' they did NOT get or about some app they are not going to have anymore. What does this have to do with a review about the TABLET. This is not a review about Barnes and Noble (sales or apps) it is about the Samsung Galaxy Galaxy Tab S2 NOOK. If the 'Thumbprint Reader' doesn't work, why didn't you exchange the tablet. There may have been a bad Thumbprint Reader on yours. :( It happens. Sorry.
Schwa More than 1 year ago
Definitely a wonderful upgrade from my Nook HD+. I was worried that going from a 9 inch screen to an 8 inch screen would be a disappointment. But it has turned out to be be "just right" in that the 9 inch screen even sometimes seemed too big or heavy. Of course it is great for reading, but handles everything else I do just wonderfully, movies look great and handles any app I've tried.
SteveInDC More than 1 year ago
Like some others, I was initially hesitant to move from my Nook HD+ to the S2 Nook. I'm an avid Nook user, and loved the branding and uniqueness of the B&N-designed Nooks. I didn't think I'd want a Samsung device, but after using this for several weeks, I can attest to the fact that it is a fantastic device. It has a beautiful screen - so much so that I jsut sold my iPad Mini w/Retina on eBay - and is zippy, feather-light and an absolute pleasure to read on. Newspapers and magazines are especially crisp and clear. And I like the Nook widgets better than I anticipated (though still not as much as the immersive experience on the last set of B&N tablets). I do wish the local B&N store had done a better job of showcasing the S2's strengths. The models on display did not have magazines, newspapers or even books loaded that would really show off the amazing screen and user experience. (This is one reason I waited a while to upgrade. Had the store models been set up to allow the tablet to shine by including better demo materials, I would have undoubtedly made the leap sooner.) I've kept, and still love, my HD+, but I'm also really glad I made the upgrade to the S2. If you're on the fence, give it a try. I was pleasantly surprised. It's a beautifully made device that is, surprisingly, a really good showcase for B&N and Nook, too.
friend678 11 months ago
I have had my Galaxy Tab S2 SM-T710 (8" Nook) for over a year and it is the best tablet I have owned! I also own the Nook Tablet, Nook HD+, Samsung Tab 4 Nook, and the Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4" tablet (not a nook version) but the Samsung Galaxy Tab S2 Nook is my favorite. I know it is more expensive than the others but it is well worth the price. If you check out the prices of Samsung tablets (non-nook versions) elsewhere then you will see that B&N's price is a fair price, especially when you get it on sale. Before I bought the S2 Nook, l bought a very nice Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4" (not a nook) at Best Buy (about the same price as Tab S2 Nook) which I was very happy with but I am happier with the Samsung Tab S2 Nook. They are the same speed but the picture quality and size of the Tab S2 is perfect for me. I'm so happy that I decided to purchase this device. I am giving my other devices to my adult children and friends because I no longer use them.
Bettikins More than 1 year ago
Like other reviewers, I've owned every Nook reader and tablet and loved them all... I still can't part with the HD for sentimental reasons. That being said, the Samsung Galaxy S2 Nook is phenomenal. Seriously light, fast and gorgeous. I love the Nook adaptation and reading the new Serial Reads under Readouts. That whole section was a great idea. This tablet costs a bit more but it's worth every penny and then some. I agree with others that it is the perfect replacement for the iPad Mini. I just love Barnes and Noble Nook and now it's better than ever.
msebe More than 1 year ago
I've graduated through nearly all the nooks, including my much-loved HD+. But the Tab S2 is so excellent! It is light and elegant, with a beautiful display. It really does combine the immersive, integrated experience of the HD+ (the best e-reader of its generation) and a premier tablet, better than an iPad. Thank you B&N for facilitating this lovely nook/Samsung tablet, and for continuing to provide me with such abundant opportunities to read in such a pleasurable way!
PriPri 7 months ago
As a tablet this is a fantastic machine. It's the perfect size, light-weight, clear and fast. It's beautiful, really. However, as an ereader this is subpar. One of the biggest draws to buying this was the ability to sideload books onto the SD card, and apparently for a while it worked beautifully. After some reading on various message boards it seems it was a software update that messed everything up. Yes, you can sideload books to the SD card, but you cannot open them. I've had to download a universal reading app in order to read my sideloaded books. This wasn't even an issue with my Nook Color, which is obsolete, but still works better as an ereader than the S2. If I had known this would be the case, I could have purchased any Samsung tablet from another store and used my members privileges to get a better price, discounts and a better service plan. I contacted customer services via email, got pushed to online chat, who told me to call--basically I got the run-around. No one was able to help me and the return call I was promised, never came. I'm highly disappointed. This was a gift from my husband and I only asked for it because my Nook Color was so fantastic, if a bit antiquated. It really irks me that my glitchy old Nook Color works better as an ereader than the brand new, beautiful piece of machinery my hubby paid a boatload of money for. If you don't see the redundancy of having to download a reading app onto your ereader, by all means buy it, otherwise I'd go with something else, or buy it somewhere you can get a better deal.
kcladyz 8 months ago
this tablet is on sale at best buy for $299
Angela-PA More than 1 year ago
I love this Nook. I would highly recommend this to anyone. I upgraded from the old HD which I also like very much. Makes a great gift!!
misamisa86 2 days ago
Just bought one this morning, because my 10 inch kept bugging out. I have to say it's an improvement. I love it already. My only problem is in the nook settings I can't choose the classic layout like I could on the 10 inch, for me that is actually a complete let down. All in all it is by far the best "samsung nook" I have had. Nice memory, very light weight, decent size screen, and visually appealling.
UncleMikey 4 months ago
Nook_for_Life 5 months ago
FANTASTIC......RIVALS and BEATS IPAD This comes from a veteran user. of several Nooks....Have had mine (this one) for nearly TWO YEARS now and I use it all the time....the device is ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. Would recommend highly the covers as I like to watch SafariLive on the National Geographic and like to stand it up.....battery life is long and the screen is absolutely gorgeous....love reading in bed....and listening too to books.....by far their very BEST device yet. This is light and thin for the product, easily balanced in the hand. For TRAVERLERS..be it to college or on business or shuttling about different WIFI connections. IF you HATE to wake up your device with a six pin pass word or ridiculous pauses because it shuts off so soon THIS device is easily programmed to layer the protective device features as needed. Trust your home wifi then WHY HAVE TO TYPE IN THE DARNED PASS WORD ON YOUR HOME WIFI EACH TIME YOU USE IT??? You can program THIS device to simply turn off (or on) the protective pass words and gestures (YES! you don't have to get to you device with silly passwords each time). So, at the office or school the device will put up the hard armor of the silly password(s) and such as needed...and when you get home though ..your device senses the home wifi and if you program it (quite easy) it will drop that terrible inconvenience because you trust you home wifi anyway RIGHT?....ANOTHER neat thing is the alarm...you can program it to turn on and off, like weekend mode, weekday mode or whatever day mode...and the alarm will sound DEPENDENT upon the location of your device...COOOL!!! Love it when visiting friends. Anyway its a great reader with a clear and bright screen ( or not so bright as you decide to set it) and i LOVE the gesture feature to get into my device when out and about. This would be fantastic for someone who cannot see too well too. They can wake up and get to the content of the device and then talk to Google ("Okay Google")...nice too for those tired of having to remember yet another password or number combination...we want ENJOY our devices right? Okay, anyway....just wanted to share...OH, and this takes a beating too...Just keep it in the B&N case...the case has a stand that actually remains out of the way when you don't want to fuss with a cover....I really DONT own any stock in the company....I just really like it....hope this helps...AND the B&N staff were really friendly and patient with questions about the Nooks too....they were great...I did not have many...but they did not show that kind of attitude some store staff give you (YOU actually want ME to WAIT on YOU ..REALLY??? )...GGRRRR...B&N STAFF are AWESOME and KIND and they really help you out. Thanks B&N...you ROCK!!!!
bookcatcc More than 1 year ago
I love it. I see in my account that I've had it for a year now, and it has been wonderful. I say this as a techno imbecile who needs help with everything including the smart phone my grandkids forced me to buy. I'm a bookworm, and I don't care much about apps or at all about games, but I do like to shop online and the color and resolution are superb. Plus, this is a reading experience that actually compensates for the absence of a paper book. I especially recommend this for low-tech people like me because you can take it to a B&N store if you have questions. They are always friendly and helpful. I caught it on sale for $300, and it seemed like a fortune, but it was worth it. Originally one of my favorite features was that a pop-up would let you know if you already own the book. I have bought many a book that I read years before and disposed of--having that awful moment where you realize that you have read the book before and now remember everything that will happen. However, nook does not recognize a reissue of a title you may already own. I'm guessing the ISBN isn't exactly the same. So voracious readers should watch out for duplicate purchases. Bottom line: if you have the money, it's worth it even at full price.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I've had my nook galaxy s2 for a year now. I don't leave home without It!
KimberZK More than 1 year ago
This is the best tablet I have ever owned! My 2 daughters also love theirs.
Citygirl1031 More than 1 year ago
Perfect e-Reader & Tablet! This is my 4th Nook and by far the best Nook. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Nook was running low on space with all the book, magazines and apps so I bought the Tab S2. The screen is incredibly beautiful, crystal clear. Reading cookbooks and magazines is great. The processor is really fast for Internet browsing. The reading experience is perfect. The size of this Nook is perfect. I would recommend this Nook to anyone looking for an excellent e-Reader/Tablet.
cllhnstev More than 1 year ago
Glad I updated from the Hd, faster, sharper, better color, protection from others, a few added apps, a tool to help add micro SD card, etc. Had no problem applying clear protective screen and cover is decent though I liked my New Yorker cover better. B&N Facebook was really good at answering questions to help me in setup. Wishlist is working but still wish I could remove books after I buy them, guess they're there forever. Only complaint is that local store personnel have become useless at answering questions and offering help.
Anonymous 8 months ago
This used to be a pretty good deal, but has since become less than stellar. You can now get an Apple retina iPad for $329 and an 64 bit A9 processor (same as the iPhone 6s) and 32GB flash. I believe this is the same machine as the iPad Air 2, with an updated processor. Why get a Samsung whatchamacallit when you can get the iPad cheaper?
HTH More than 1 year ago
The Galaxy Tab S2 Nook is the third Nook I’ve owned and I’ve been very pleased with all of them…until last week. That’s when my new Tab 2 Nook and I took a 7 hour (cross country trip (transit time). My poor Nook died before I landed. It was fully charged when I left and it was in “airplane mode” for all of about 2 hours in the airports. On my return, the Nook was charged to 97%. I turned it on airplane mode before the flight and shut down “color,” B &W only. Before I got half way across country I was warn that the battery was at 20%. A while latter I needed to check something and attempted to bring the Nook to life, but as soon as it brought up the home page, it just “bleeped” out. And it did that multiple times before I gave up. B & N (or Galaxy) claims that the Tab S2 can play up to 14 hours of video. Go figure. Now, let’s see if Barnes and Noble pays attention to reviews on their products and they contact me…instead of my spending hours trying to get someone with enough authority to address this problem.
Brenda Wheeler 10 months ago
I HATE my new Nook!! First of all I can't transfer any of my old books, if I had known that I would never have gotten one, Then the few books I bothered to buy were Lost by it!! I repeat I HATE this machine, an d I so loved my old one. Let's see you do anything about this mess!
GrammaNancy More than 1 year ago
I have no doubt that will NOT get posted. I've had my S2 for a few months with nothing but trouble. I have Samsung on speed dial. You get someone new each time you call, and then they say that one should not have told you that, etc. Finally they told me I have to send it back. So, we will see what happens now. How long it takes, if they can fix it. I can never get the money back I spent on it, so, we will see. I am looking at various devices I might want to try instead. VERY disappointed....